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Unread 06-15-2009   #1 (permalink)
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Ok hey my name is Sean, and i have a KittyKat and some questions lol.

1. can a small wild large cat(like a lynx)(the big cats) be tamed. I know that It would be very dangerous and way to risky for a normal person but it can be done with raccoons and wolves so im just curious.

2. Is it normal for cats to have really itchy ears, because moosie does, he deals with fleas and only has them for a week every 4 months or so but his earrs are always super sensitive and itchy.

3. Is it alright to fight your cat? i will push him and lightly slap him, while he dodges and bites, scratches and kicks. he never gets hurt and will stop at anytime, he makes me have red cuts but no blood dripping usually. he never attacks people and will only play fight you if you attack first. is this bad for him at all i just want to be sure. He is a sweet cat willing to fight.(he is two and a half)

4.what is the worlds biggest breed of cat?(just curious)
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AND 5.(the most important)
Lets start with Moosie's story. about two and a half years ago my mom found a cat in our garage, she told me to check it out, i went in and found 4 kittens. Of the four three we gave away to friends and one we kept, the mother was taken by animal control(not my decision). Moose has what i think is called a tabby look, while his brother is all black with maybe 50 randomly growing while hairs, and his other two brothers are grey with white splotches. Anywho I was wondering if Moosie could be identified as a specific breed which would be awesome, fingers crossed and thanks in advance

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Moose is not fat, he ways 13 pounds and is pretty long. He has a white/yellow belly with the default color on his body... also his chin is pure white


Edit: sorry they are links thought they would be pictures my bad

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1. The big cats are not good as pets, the problem is their instincts are such that while you can semi domesticate cubs/kittens once they reach maturity they're too hard to handle. Cheetahs tend to be an exception being able to be taught and kept as a hunting cat (the ancient Egyptians did this), and are fairly personable overall, much like a dog, just don't let it chase cars, might catch it.

Some are worse than others, the North American Cougar is commonly said to be impossible to tame to any notable degree, people that think they have tend to wind up mauled. And there are a lot of dangers with the big cats, notably the tongue, a lick from a house cat feels like sandpaper because that's exactly what it is, a cat will lick a kill to remove feathers, scales, fur, and even the flesh, a big cat's tongue will have you bleeding from the first lick as any big cat handler can tell you.

They're definitely better off in the wild or in the hands of experienced handlers in zoos. Private breeders don't tend to be smart about the realities.

2. Yes it's normal for them to be itchy, partially because it's hard for a cat to clean them fully (watch a cat when s/he licks their paws and tries and you'll see what I mean). And because they're sensitive it's often hard for us to help, dogs have the same issues, Wolfie used to have scabs on the tips of her ears from the constant itching. Having another cat can help as they'll perform mutual grooming at times. It's part of why cats and dogs love being scratched by us in certain spots like the base of the ears though, it's that itch they can't scratch properly.

3. Usually not a good idea, preferrably you don't period, I only let Susan go at all when she bats without claws. Toys that he can beat/chew/claw are more suitable, ie a piece of paper on a string you can pull along for him to pounce on instead of you.

4. Hard to say TBH Siberians, Maine Coons, Norweigan Forest Cat all mass in quite large.

5. Sounds a bit like a regular short hair litter, of course if you asked 4 because he's big I'd need a picture to even contemplate an accurate answer.
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he is not that large, i edited my first post with pictures in their now and more detail, i have heard the fighting is bad because it gives them issues with other people but he is perfect with others. He likes it too so... also the lynx thing(or big cat) i know with wolves and foxes they catcha bunch of em, try and tame them then breed the tamest ect. ect. ect. i was just wondering if that would work... i just saw a movie about it so its on my mind
 
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Yeah he just looks like a short to mid hair tabby, cute as can be but not a specialist breed, though that's not a bad thing, domestic shorthairs don't have a lot of health issues that some of the other breeds have developed from breeding.

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The thing you need to remember is while we consider cats domesticated, there is still a lot of the wildness in them apart from their size. Most cultures agree that cats are the most independent of all creatures (the reason the cat is not in the Chinese zodiac is according to legend when the other animals came to Buddha the cat turned it's back and walked away as one example). That's just the way they are, trying to tame big cats is not easy, and those breeding populations have a problem. Most cats are not social animals, the lion is fairly unique in that respect, other big cats with the exception of tigers tend to split up after the female is serviced and the cubs are kicked out the door as soon as they're deemed ready to survive. Some will reunite regularly at breeding time but that's about it, Tigers can mate for life and hunt in partnership. So selective breeding is still hard because you're dealing with as I said independent creatures, they do what they want.

I've been trying to track down a site I located once that explains a lot of the issues with big cats in captivity since the site is a rescue centre for big cats in the USA. So I can give you a link to their observations since they've had to pick up everything from Lynx to Black Leopards from homes because they've matured and the sweet tempered cub is now a hormonal adult. Which includes spraying, and it reeks and is fairly corrosive in nature given the damage it will do not cleaned off enclosure fixtures like fences.

An old movie that shows some of the reality of animals raised in captivity is "Born Wild" (IMDB entry) which is about a Lioness raised in captivity and then released for various reasons (based on RL). Or "Born Wild" (IMDB Entry) about Leopards.

In the end there is a saying that is sometimes quoted. "We didn't domesticate cats, they trained us to be their servants."
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ok well i still think that they could be tamed.... I wouldnt but still
 
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I'd also like to add that Savannahs and Ragdolls can get quite big too. I have a Maine Coon myself, they get big, I have pics on my profile, but keep in mind that she's a female and only 7 months old (5 or 6 months in most of the pics), so she's not as large as male cats.

Don't fight with your cat, just walk away, this is causing aggressive behavior.

Yes, I also think he is a DSH
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Correct Katrine, he's a tabby DSH. Pretty kittie, concats!
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He is a gorgeous kitty, and very lucky to have found you, has he been neutered yet? If not he should be!
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Hi Sean and Moosie, warmest welcome !

Just like my Princess (DSH tabby), I do believe he is a domestic short-med hair tabby, and he is absolutely gorgeous !! You must be very proud of him !

I don't agree with you fighting your cat, no matter how nice and pleasant your cat is. Coz this "game" will develop his "wild" personality, your cat will learn from the game and take it as "okay" to bite or scratch. I agree with Allan and the rest of the members here who answered you, you have to ignore him when he starts to fight you, but apparently you're the one who need to stop the challenge...hehe ! Never use your hand to provoke him, unless you want to pet him. If you want to play or let him exercise, please use other objects like toys, feathers or strings...
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I disagree he is two and a half now and he is kinda grown up. He will never just attack someone, unless you plan on playing with him... i see how this could develop him into some kind of mean cat however it is not, therefore i think the fighting is alright, i mean dogs can play fight and they know when it is ok and not ok
 
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